Rank of the US

Svali: The U.S. is considered lower and younger than the European branches. Germany, France, and the UK form a triumvirate that rules in the European cult.

The USSR is considered important and has the strongest military groups. The USSR has been promised fourth position in the New World Order, above the role the U.S. would have, because the USSR has been more helpful and cooperative over the years with furthering the agenda.

The descendants of the former ruling families there are also involved in the occult leadership, along with the newer ones.

There is no Marxism in the cult. China will be ranked after the USSR, then the U.S. But a lot of the current U.S. leadership will be in Europe when the change occurs, and many have homes there. They will be “changing nationalities” overnight, as it were. This is the little that I do remember. Wish I had been a better student of this stuff, but I was too busy trying to stay alive when I was in it.

Russia will be the military base and powerhouse of the group since their military commanders (Illuminist) are considered the best in the world and very, very disciplined. China, because of its roots in oriental occultism and its large population, will also be considered a higher power than the U.S. But again, the real power will reside in Europe, according to what I was taught when part of the group.

illuminati-gameThe United Nations

Svali: The UN was created early in this century in order to help overcome one of the biggest barriers to a one-world government. That barrier is the one of nationalism or pride in one’s country. This is why it was not a popular concept when first introduced. It took years of country bashing in the media and the destruction of any sense of national pride by a (not so subtle) media campaign over the years.

The UN is a preparation, but it is not the real power in the world, and will be relatively unimportant when the NWO comes into being. The real councils will then step forward. But as a means of getting the general public to accept the idea of a “global community” and the “one world community” the UN is a stepping stone in their working towards the NWO.


Svali: The conflict in the Middle East is only to the advantage of the Illuminists. They hate Israel and hope one day to see it destroyed, and are biding their time. One of the olive branches offered by the UN when it takes over is that they will prevent war in the Middle East, and this will be greeted with joy by many.

The Illuminati covertly supply guns and funds to both sides to keep the conflict fuelled. They are very duplicitous people. They used to funnel guns through the USSR to Palestine, for example, in the name of promoting “friendliness” between the USSR and this state and other Arab nations. Then, the US Illuminists would help funnel guns to Israel, for the same reason.

These people love the game of chess and see warfare between nations as creating an order out of chaos. The USSR is going to get stronger again. It has too strong a military both openly and covertly to sit quietly and quiescently to the side. In the NWO, they will be stronger than us. All Illuminati military trainers have visited Russia to learn from them.

Is the Illuminati a Jewish conspiracy?

ilSvali: Absolutely not. In fact, Hitler and his people (especially Himmler and Goebbels) were top Illuminists. The Illuminati are racist in the extreme, and as a child, I was forced to play “concentration camp” both on my farm in Virginia, and also in Europe in isolated camps in Germany.

The Jews historically fought against the occult. See Deuteronomy and the Old Testament for how God through the Jewish people tried to cleanse the land of the occult groups that were operating there, such as those who worshipped Baal, Ashtarte, and other Canaanite and Babylonian gods.

[From an email to Henry Makow] Yes, there are some very powerful Jewish people in this group. For instance, the Rothschild family literally runs the financial empire in Europe (and indirectly the States), and are a well-known Jewish family.

I have also known people whose parents were Jewish diamond merchants in the group, and at every level. But to rise to power in the Illuminati, a Jewish person at night would be forced to renounce their faith and to give their first allegiance to Lucifer and the beliefs of the Illuminati. In return for this betrayal, they believe that power (financial) and rewards come; and in one sense they do, but at too high a price.

The nazi/concentration camp mentality is very strong. I was told that Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, and others were high-ranking German members of the group (Himmler was higher than the other two). [Auschwitz medical experimenter] Mengele was their paid puppet as well. He later worked as a high trainer of the American branch between his periods of hiding in South America. They honestly believed that they were acting as agents of their ‘gods’ to exterminate the Jewish race. I am so, so sorry that this group has enacted so many horrors on the earth (and so, so glad that I left it).

I have always wondered, though, why some of the highest ranking financial families in the group (baron Rothschild of France is one of the 13 European lords or “kings” that run the group in Europe and sits on the World Council) are Jewish, yet the group espouses hatred of their race.

Are They Racist?

Svali: Lots of Illuminists have Fourth Reich programming inside. They are racist and have a very “Aryan” outlook. They believe strongly in the rule of the “pure” and “intelligent” by their definitions. In their ceremonies, there will occasionally be minorities killed in ceremonies. Not all Illuminist groups are as fanatically anti-racial as the German branch is, although many are.

They are trying to breed a “genetically superior” race to rule with their children and descendants. They are also followers of Plato’s Republic, and believe that they will be the ones to usher in this “Utopian” rule with the NWO. In their Utopia, the intelligentsia will rule, and the sheep like masses will follow their leaders. That is their view of the world; that the occult leaders are “enlightened’ and intelligent, while the average person is a “sheep” to be led by the nose.

The Cold War

cold-warsSvali: Russia was never really a threat to us. Marxism was funded by the Illuminati and espoused as a counterbalance to capitalism. The Illuminati believe strongly in balancing opposing forces, in the pull between opposites. They see history as a complex chess game. They will fund one side, then another, while ultimately out of the chaos and division …, they are laughing because they are ultimately beyond political parties. A top western financier will secretly meet with an eastern or Russian “adversary” during those years, and have a good laugh at how the “sheep” were being deluded. I am sharing here what I was taught and also observed.

They are truly an international group, and the group’s agenda supersedes any nationalistic feelings. There is also a lot of trading back and forth of members in these groups. A Russian trainer might come to the U.S. for awhile, complete a job, then go back, or vice-versa.